housework

I’m not sure whether to tell this as a story, laying out the events in the order of their occurrence and the ideas in the order in which I discovered them, or whether to give more of an executive overview of the issue as I now understand it.  But Saturday night, Joscelin and I had a difficult conversation (tears or tear-equivalents on both sides) over the issue of housework.

It started when, after saying that I needed to bring up a difficult issue, I said something like, “When I ask you to do housework, it causes you so much stress and is so hard for you that it makes it almost impossible for me to give you any tasks.”

Let’s back up a little.  When Jos first moved in, I was a bit stymied about how to handle housework between us, and eventually we settled on just having me treat him as a slave there the way I do in other areas, so that basically it is up to me how the housework is apportioned.  In theory, if I want him to do something, I tell him (hopefully with some reasonable amount of forewarning so he can plan his life), and he does it.  And if I want to do something, I do it.

This is perilously close to the “standard model” where the woman is in charge of the house and she makes the man “help out.”  In theory it can be completely different, but you can’t play this close to stereotypes without feeling it.  Culture is fucking everywhere, man.

But my statement – that housework causes him too much stress, so that I can’t make him do it – made Jos feel terrible, and terribly threatened.  For the past few weeks, I’ve had him clean the kitchen every single day while I’m at work, and mop once a week.  And his feeling is that this has gone extremely well.  So for me to say what I did…well.  It was bad.

So in the aftermath of that statement, as I lay next to him somewhat curled up with fear, wishing for all the world that I could extricate myself from the situation somehow, rewind the scene and say something different, I also tried to think my way through what my real complaint was.  Had the kitchen task indeed gone well?  Did I have complaints about his handling of it?  Had he expressed a lot of stress and discomfort?  What was it I actually felt when considering giving him a task?  (Because something does hold me back.)

(Are you wondering how the housework actually goes between us?  Neither of us does much.  Jos does most of it.  My contribution these days typically consists of washing the towels every week and cleaning the bathroom every two or three weeks.  Sometimes someone vaccums.  He helped me clean my bedroom a couple of months ago, but typically we take care of our own rooms and laundry.  I haven’t touched the kitchen in weeks.)

I had nothing defensible to say to him, and I was quiet for a long time, pondering the following.  I resent that he [temporarily; new job pending] isn’t working, while I am working and going to school, and yet he doesn’t keep the house clean.  But our arrangement is for me to command him to do things, so if I don’t, it is theoretically all right for him not to do them.  Resenting your male partner for not “helping out” – typical powerless woman stuff.  What the hell.

He hasn’t expressed much discomfort or stress over the kitchen, though he does tend to do it late in the day and one day he had several errands and it slipped to a later hour in a way that didn’t affect me since I was at school anyway.  Having the kitchen clean when I come home every single day has been blissful, wonderful, convenient.

I think, leaving the irrational, culturally-determined resentment aside, it comes down to this.  When I give him a task, I fret about whether he’ll do it until he does it.  When he talks about how to arrange his time I have a buzz in my head worrying about whether he’ll get to the task I’ve assigned him in the time frame I’ve given him.  I wonder if he’ll procrastinate too far and then be angry or stressed about it.

And it is easier to do the thing myself, or just let it remain undone, than it is to do all that fretting.  Being a control freak is exhausting.  Besides the internal worry, I have to monitor myself not to nag him about it.

Jos doesn’t complete assigned tasks 100% of the time, but he doesn’t leave them undone in a way that has bad effects (e.g., guests arriving in 15 minutes with a 1-hour task undone), and his track record is pretty good – definitely good enough not to justify pointless worry over something that isn’t even going to matter much.

So it really is the control freak thing.

And, of course, realizing this while lying silently next to my devastated partner, with him occasionally giving me new arguments and thoughts and fears (“…if that’s what you’re saying, I’m 14 again and living with my parents…”) was just awful.  I would have given anything for him to have touched me in a comforting way, but I couldn’t ask, and he’s not comforted by touch, so it wouldn’t have helped to initiate.  (I had plenty of time to think my way through all of this.)

I finally said, “I need your mercy right now.”  And he did hold me.

I’ve written the above more clearly than I was able to think through it at the time.  I had a sense of betrayal of myself the whole time because I knew I would say (and believe, if necessary) anything to make things all right between us.  But I think what I’ve written here is the truth of the situation, and I was eventually able to communicate it to a reasonable degree.

In theory, if I give him a task, it’s just up to him to do it.  Either he does it, or I punish him.  (And I do punish him.  Tune in later for photo evidence.)  I don’t need to worry about it or try to manage him time with jedi mind-control.  (Sometimes what I do in my head around how Jos manages his time is kind of like what you do after you release a bowling ball and try to nudge it sideways by twitching your head.  The ball doesn’t know you’re trying to control it, and you don’t succeed, but somehow you hope to influence it merely by straining.)

Can I learn this trick?

18 Responses to housework

  1. The Jedi Mind Trick or the Trick of Chilling Out?

  2. The trick of chilling the fuck out.

  3. Micromangement isn’t for everyone. I was at home while my Owner worked for a year, and I was once of the same mindset that Joscelin appears to be. That he wants to act on “orders” is perfectly natural for someone who identifies as a slave, yet can actually put more work onto the Dominant partner.

    What I have found works well for my Owner and I is sets of general guidelines. I have certain areas that are deemed my responsibility (ie dishes every day, laundry, etc.) but I’m not given specific tasks every day. Something worth giving a shot? Maybe a weekly breakdown of important things. How he manages them into his schedule isn’t important necessarily, so long as he does them. That way, you have control, but aren’t so caught up in the mechanics of how he fulfills his role as a slave that you drive yourself mad.

    All the best,

    Darren

  4. “That he wants to act on “orders” is perfectly natural for someone who identifies as a slave, yet can actually put more work onto the Dominant partner.”

    Completely agree with that.

  5. Darren and Elle, I agree to an extent, but in our case I think making the demand on him more flexible and subject to discretion would actually make me crazier. He’d either kill himself doing way too much, or I’d be dissatisfied in small ways but not sure exactly how much to comment and how to push it. Or whether my demands were reasonable on any given day. It’s a much more precarious situation to negotiate that way. At least this way, there is a clear answer to whether he’s done what I’ve asked. And clear times for me to check (before which I can, in theory, just assume it will be done and not worry about it).

  6. God, I love your blog.

    Sometimes, when I’m doing or saying the wrong things to Belle (or vice versa) it’s so easy to feel like a total stupid n00b with a ton to learn because we’ve only been “doing it” for a little while. Then I come here, the place I’m supposed to learn from a person probably half my age yet with many miles on me, and I what do I find? You’re not perfect! Turns out, were all stupid n00bs (sometimes). Instead of coming off all uber Nazi domme bullshit and making the wankers…well, wank you’re pouring your guts out, good, bad and ugly.

    To sum up: you’re swell.

    OK, back to your thing. Yeah, Belle was exactly the same way with the fretting about me doing something she asked me to do (and that was before she was Belle and I was Thumper, if you know what I mean). It’s not that I didn’t do what she wanted me to do, but I didn’t do it exactly how or when she wanted it done. Very stressful for her, very stressful for me. The way we “fixed” it was by communicating and both taking a pill. I don’t put stuff off as much as I used to and she’s ratcheted the control freak shit down a few clicks. Just identifying it and acknowledging it was a huge part of making it OK.

    (And I do punish him. Tune in later for photo evidence.)

    *salivate*

  7. Yeah, I am really not much good with the Nazi über domme stuff. I can be stern and solemn when it’s appropriate in our actual relationship, but it’s not part of my blogging personality (or much of my personality in general).

    The control freak stuff drives us both a bit nuts, but acknowledging it goes a long way.

  8. you could try what;s worked well for hospitals-give him a checklist. Then you can come home and go over the list. Doing more than what is on the list does not automatically win brownie points, and not finishing leads to ….discussion……
    You can also figure out what you want done when you say “clean the kitchen”. Does it include windows? Scrubbing the molding? That way you both know what needs to be done. You can also set a basic standard of care-how much is too much clutter? Do the dust bunnies have to attack before they vacuumed, and so on.
    And when your politics get tin the way of your enjoying your home life-ditch the politics. This is YOUR life, not some statement.

  9. He does generally do the assigned work with no problem and to my standards (which are not freakishly high in any case). Also, about the politics – it’s not that I am holding a political position that makes our arrangement difficult; it’s that I find myself impinged upon by culture in a way that makes our arrangement difficult, and my politics recognizes that difficulty and it makes me angry at the way the world is.

  10. I’m having a really difficult time getting a handle on this whole thing–possibly because house chores with us are incredibly strained and he won’t let me DO anything without micro-managing. So I am ideologically opposed to micromanagement. ;)

    I would third or fourth or fifth the chore list suggestion, which I realize doesn’t seem to appeal. But why not sit down and figure out together what needs to get done when? Then a list goes on the fridge and it gets checked off. You can even have him note the time he’s done it. If he fails to do it on time, you have a record. ;) You’ve already said that he does things to your satisfaction, and that it’s just that occasionally he doesn’t do things in the timely manner you would like. Seems like a list of recurring tasks would take the responsibility off you to issue daily commands and put it back on him to provide service.

    I get the political aspect of this, but you know, it also comes up when people are just roomies and there’s no sexual dynamic involved. It also comes up with parents (including single dads) and kids. I’ve been the female slob in many co-ed rooming groups, and the guys have to ride herd on my messes. It seems to me this is one area where you could find better compromises. But that’s looking in from the outside, which can be problematic.

  11. It actually only rarely occurs that he doesn’t get the task I ask him to do done on time. I don’t think that’s the part of the task that is broken. The broken part is that, regardless of what he does or does not do, it stresses me out to have him do housework.

    The mounted checklist is not a bad idea if things ever got…complicated.

  12. Oh god, I deal with this stuff too. It’s funny, because I’m actually quite messy when left to my own devices, but in a shared household I can get control freaky about things being clean. And it’s *definitely* a gendered thing. I constantly have to check myself on this, because it’s really easy for me to slip into this mindset in which I feel like I have to either clean up myself or ask my partner / my male roommates to help clean up in order to keep the house from being a complete mess. That’s not the case, and I know it — but because of good ‘ol cultural indoctrination, I *expect* him to not clean up unless he’s told to, because he’s a man. Or I automatically start cleaning things before giving him a chance to do it himself, because I assume I’ll have to do it. It’s really hard to get past those ingrained habits and assumptions.

  13. I’m so glad someone else gets the gendered aspect of this.

  14. It sounds like he is actually doing what you ask to an acceptable standard and not freaking out too much, yet you still seem to be waiting for him to fail you. My question would be, is that true, and if so, why.

    I would agree that putting aside your worry about it is best, but if I knew how to get you to do that, I’d be on Oprah with my best-selling book this week. ;)

    And I do have to admit finding it very interesting thinking about situations like this in which F/m actually mirrors existing fucked up practices in our patriarchal culture. I agree with others that every set of cohabitants have to deal with dividing housework, but add in gender (and esp partner-relationships that bring up the whole Mom’s domain issue) and it gets even hairier and more fraught with weird associations.

  15. Sorry I missed the gender role part in all of this. You never said you felt weird having Jos do the housework because he’s male, just that you stress about giving orders, waiting for them to be obeyed and so on.
    I’m not a radical enough feminist, I guess.

  16. Oh, I completely think “woman runs household, gets man to ‘contribute’ to housework” is a gendered pattern that’s all-too-common. But as a female inveterate slob, I rarely experience it.

  17. Sorry, Pastrychef – I assumed your comment about not letting politics get in the way referred to this:

    This is perilously close to the “standard model” where the woman is in charge of the house and she makes the man “help out.” In theory it can be completely different, but you can’t play this close to stereotypes without feeling it. Culture is fucking everywhere, man.

    Sera, somehow, as a slob, I never experienced it before now myself.

    Sallo, your point about “Mom’s domain” is very germane, much as I hate to admit it. And yes, I am kind of waiting for him to fail, in effect. It’s similar to how sometimes you (at least I) get angry at your partner preemptively before you’re sure they screwed something up, just because you anticipate they might.

  18. Fuck it, let the maid do the cleaning!

Leave a Reply

Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in:

WordPress.com Logo

You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Log Out / Change )

Twitter picture

You are commenting using your Twitter account. Log Out / Change )

Facebook photo

You are commenting using your Facebook account. Log Out / Change )

Connecting to %s